It sure looks like his ID says the Agency is United States DOL.
I just google searched the DOL seal and there are some great similarities and some small differences with that and the seal at the bottom of the Tangiers ID …
BUT the seal on the Tangiers ID sure makes it look like a U.S. Government ID
It is very misleading and possibly criminal for Tangiers to use the American flag and the eagle on their ID, while also having the Agency on the ID saying United States DOL.
Without the facts we don’t yet know that the Department of Labor did not play a part in this, or some connection in the DoL, who is further connected….
They have not responded yet…….
As always, we need to be looking at who would benefit from this arrangement.
Does anyone doubt that Tangiers International intentionally misrepresented themselves to get access to information that wouldn’t be available to them through normal channels?????
Are they “investigators” or “medical providers”??? Which is it?? First they say that they are setting up clinics to expedite treatment of contractors working in Iraq and Afghanistan, (poof, that website disappeared) then we hear that they may be performing surgical procedures in their clinics(poof that website disappeared) and now they are representating themselves as agents of the Department of Labor (and poof their personnel profiles disappear after being caught suspiciously investigating claimants)
WAKE UP DEPARTMENT OF LABOR . . . these insurance companies and their so called agents are using your name to gain access to information that they shouldn’t have access to until discovery proceedings.
Even if Tangiers actually works for the DOL as investigators ( which I doubt) it is insane to have a company that amputates … and oh … they also do criminal investigations too.
If they don’t work for DOL then that ID is very misleading !!
Did you notice how Mr. Slick put his finger over his name on the ID !!
Everyone who works so hard on this blog and all the awesome people who comment are my heroes !!
I pray soon the DOL and DOJ will wake up and provide you with the justice you so greatly deserve !!
Surveillance videos are totally acceptable to administrative law judges in the land of the free and manipulated and then misused as a reason to deny claims.
You guys from other lands who thought that this system is rational really need to read the DBA X-files to get clued up on what their shifting tactics are. Buying doctors and their opinions is perfectly OK in this place. For those who want to know read on below:
EL_V_KBR_GOVERNMENT_OPERA 2007LDA00049_ (FEB_26_2008) S
Lee Romero Dr. Moeller
Gary Pitts, Brian White and John L Schouest for AIG
EL was exposed to several extreme life-threatening events in Iraq where he drove trucks for KBR
from February 2005 until June 2006. Stationed in Balad and later Al Asad, his convoys went towards
the Syrian border,Telefar, Rawa and were frequently attacked with IEDs, mortars and one VIED
suicide attack.
In April, the truck in front of him as well as a humvee were blown up by daisy IEDs. The shrapnel
destroyed his truck and he sustained a concussion.
Months later, EL and the convoy commander were driving a level three armored palletized loading
system when an explosion blew out the trailer and the air hoses. He would have died had the vehicle
not been armored.
In another attack, the truck that was two trucks ahead of him, driven by a friend, was blown up. EL
knew other employees, including some friends, who died in Iraq.
EL became a convoy commander two months before leaving Iraq but reached his “breaking point”
when a military convoy behind his convoy was hit and a soldier died. KBR fired him for having a drink
(their routine excuse to get rid of people they have used up).
EL was diagnosed with chronic PTSD (and suicidal thoughts) by his board-certified treating
psychiatrist, but AIG trotted out Dr Mark S. Moeller to diagnose malingering because “the final
criteria of the DSM-IV, that the disturbance must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in
social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning, had not been met”.
Faced with a classic PTSD case, AIG resorted to spying on EL with surveillance videos on eleven full
days over a four-month period. Although the videos confirm extreme self-isolation and corroborate
EL’s testimony in every respect,
Dr Moeller managed to twist and manipulate it into evidence against EL.
EL, a commercial truck driver, never said he does not sometimes drive his own cars albeit with great
difficulty (read the case). When asked why he felt he could not work, he replied because he
“definitely can’t drive…“I get road rage real easy”. In the context of the question he was obviously
referring to his prior occupation as commercial truck driver, and not driving in general. This deliberate
distortion/ parsing of words and selective reporting of what was actually said by insurance doctors and
some judges to brand people with lesser verbal skills as liars is perversely common in DBA cases.
The judge, by virtue of prejudice or sloth or both, just piggy-backed on Moeller’s opinion, failing to
perform his own unbiased evaluation of the objective evidence. “I find Claimant’s testimony regarding
his level of impairment to be exaggerated and contradicted by surveillance evidence.”
This is patently false. On four of the eleven randomly spied on days, EL never left his house. On
another five he ventured outside only once to get the mail, retrieve trash, do yard work once. We are
already at 90% extreme recluse existence.
Then he tried to overcome his fear to drive on one day;confirmed by Big Brother data: At
approximately 9:00 a.m., Claimant is filmed sitting in a green/blue car for several minutes and then
getting out of the car and walking to the side of his residence. At 10:19 a.m., the same car is filmed
driving to Claimant’s mailbox. Claimant is shown collecting the mail, walking towards his residence,
then walking back to the car and entering the driver’s seat.
Judge Romero hanged him on one (yes only one) day out of eleven when he actually drove his truck
for 15 minutes outside his home and for the first time talked to someone other than his wife and
stepson.
EL testified that he did not recall filling out a social/psychological profile at a Wellness Center in
Denton where he was treated for respiratory failure. It never occurred to the judge that medical
records or test results are not inviolate (brazen fraud occurred in an earlier case he denied), or
question why a psychological profile would be required for a respiratory problem.
It’s also disingenuous to harp on the fact that EL made no claims of being stressed or anxious etc. in
his exit interview from Iraq. PTSD has a delayed onset, is progressive and KBR routinely fires workers
who complain about symptoms and refuses to rehire those who are diagnosed with PTSD.
MOST BIZARRE: Judge Romero: “Claimant’s wife’s corroborating statements (of EL’s PTSD
symptoms), which, due to the role of financial remuneration, are also of little value.” In other words,
the judge presumes from the outset that any claimant and their families are inevitably untruthful
witnesses.
Since EL was exposed to HE blast waves and sustained a concussion, why is there no mention in the
record of a MRI to rule out traumatic brain injury, the other “signature wound” of the Iraq war?
Guess what… all video’s are taken off the internet. HMMM think they are scared now. Think we are finaly catching them at all their games.
I bet they were not thinking that a handfull of people could finaly break the illegal doing of these companies.
Maybe with all this new knowledge we can finaly get the attention and it the wrong doers their just dues. Keep up the great work everyone.
We’re up against big money, big entities.
The DoL has seen it, let’s see what they do about it.
Mark probably could have sold that video but had
the moral integrity to share it with us for free, for
everyone fighting these entities, and at risk to himself.
I wonder how Goslings fellow Marines feel about him
selling out?
Please look at the following quotes from Mark from Austrailia and I think many will agree that the Tangiers agent involved should immediately be investigated for felony reckless endangerment and possibly attempted murder because he and the insurance companies definitely know the risks of PTSD.
Here are two of the paragraphs that Mark wrote about the suicide bombing attack that occurred in May 2005 :
“22 people killed including women and children as well as the loss of two fellow work mates. Not long after the incident I was returned to my family in Australia. I was then diagnosed with PTSD and my treatment continues today. So does my claim with AIG.”
“Late last year AIG instructed Tangiers to send their vice president from their Malta Office to undertake surveillance upon myself and my family members. Their Agent (Vice President) rang me in the early hours of the morning (5am) to confirm I was home (He only asked for my name and then hung up the phone) and then commenced to video the front of my house and eventually my wife, my children and I over the next few days as we moved about the outside of our house.
The Agent attempted to follow me however nearly caused an accident when driving on the wrong side of the road towards oncoming traffic.”
Mark also mentioned that his mate had a seizure because of the incidents !!
(These quotes are from the topic titled Tangiers International DBA “medical” providers)
If the U.S. Government does not take immediate action to investigate and stop this then that will show the complete lack of conscience that Tangiers and AIG have exhibited in this case !!
Barry said
It sure looks like his ID says the Agency is United States DOL.
I just google searched the DOL seal and there are some great similarities and some small differences with that and the seal at the bottom of the Tangiers ID …
BUT the seal on the Tangiers ID sure makes it look like a U.S. Government ID
It is very misleading and possibly criminal for Tangiers to use the American flag and the eagle on their ID, while also having the Agency on the ID saying United States DOL.
The real DOL should stop this immediately.
defensebaseactcomp said
Without the facts we don’t yet know that the Department of Labor did not play a part in this, or some connection in the DoL, who is further connected….
They have not responded yet…….
As always, we need to be looking at who would benefit from this arrangement.
Krash said
Does anyone doubt that Tangiers International intentionally misrepresented themselves to get access to information that wouldn’t be available to them through normal channels?????
Are they “investigators” or “medical providers”??? Which is it?? First they say that they are setting up clinics to expedite treatment of contractors working in Iraq and Afghanistan, (poof, that website disappeared) then we hear that they may be performing surgical procedures in their clinics(poof that website disappeared) and now they are representating themselves as agents of the Department of Labor (and poof their personnel profiles disappear after being caught suspiciously investigating claimants)
WAKE UP DEPARTMENT OF LABOR . . . these insurance companies and their so called agents are using your name to gain access to information that they shouldn’t have access to until discovery proceedings.
Barry said
This is all so huge !!
Even if Tangiers actually works for the DOL as investigators ( which I doubt) it is insane to have a company that amputates … and oh … they also do criminal investigations too.
If they don’t work for DOL then that ID is very misleading !!
Did you notice how Mr. Slick put his finger over his name on the ID !!
Everyone who works so hard on this blog and all the awesome people who comment are my heroes !!
I pray soon the DOL and DOJ will wake up and provide you with the justice you so greatly deserve !!
daffodils said
Surveillance videos are totally acceptable to administrative law judges in the land of the free and manipulated and then misused as a reason to deny claims.
You guys from other lands who thought that this system is rational really need to read the DBA X-files to get clued up on what their shifting tactics are. Buying doctors and their opinions is perfectly OK in this place. For those who want to know read on below:
EL_V_KBR_GOVERNMENT_OPERA 2007LDA00049_ (FEB_26_2008) S
Lee Romero Dr. Moeller
Gary Pitts, Brian White and John L Schouest for AIG
EL was exposed to several extreme life-threatening events in Iraq where he drove trucks for KBR
from February 2005 until June 2006. Stationed in Balad and later Al Asad, his convoys went towards
the Syrian border,Telefar, Rawa and were frequently attacked with IEDs, mortars and one VIED
suicide attack.
In April, the truck in front of him as well as a humvee were blown up by daisy IEDs. The shrapnel
destroyed his truck and he sustained a concussion.
Months later, EL and the convoy commander were driving a level three armored palletized loading
system when an explosion blew out the trailer and the air hoses. He would have died had the vehicle
not been armored.
In another attack, the truck that was two trucks ahead of him, driven by a friend, was blown up. EL
knew other employees, including some friends, who died in Iraq.
EL became a convoy commander two months before leaving Iraq but reached his “breaking point”
when a military convoy behind his convoy was hit and a soldier died. KBR fired him for having a drink
(their routine excuse to get rid of people they have used up).
EL was diagnosed with chronic PTSD (and suicidal thoughts) by his board-certified treating
psychiatrist, but AIG trotted out Dr Mark S. Moeller to diagnose malingering because “the final
criteria of the DSM-IV, that the disturbance must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in
social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning, had not been met”.
Faced with a classic PTSD case, AIG resorted to spying on EL with surveillance videos on eleven full
days over a four-month period. Although the videos confirm extreme self-isolation and corroborate
EL’s testimony in every respect,
Dr Moeller managed to twist and manipulate it into evidence against EL.
EL, a commercial truck driver, never said he does not sometimes drive his own cars albeit with great
difficulty (read the case). When asked why he felt he could not work, he replied because he
“definitely can’t drive…“I get road rage real easy”. In the context of the question he was obviously
referring to his prior occupation as commercial truck driver, and not driving in general. This deliberate
distortion/ parsing of words and selective reporting of what was actually said by insurance doctors and
some judges to brand people with lesser verbal skills as liars is perversely common in DBA cases.
The judge, by virtue of prejudice or sloth or both, just piggy-backed on Moeller’s opinion, failing to
perform his own unbiased evaluation of the objective evidence. “I find Claimant’s testimony regarding
his level of impairment to be exaggerated and contradicted by surveillance evidence.”
This is patently false. On four of the eleven randomly spied on days, EL never left his house. On
another five he ventured outside only once to get the mail, retrieve trash, do yard work once. We are
already at 90% extreme recluse existence.
Then he tried to overcome his fear to drive on one day;confirmed by Big Brother data: At
approximately 9:00 a.m., Claimant is filmed sitting in a green/blue car for several minutes and then
getting out of the car and walking to the side of his residence. At 10:19 a.m., the same car is filmed
driving to Claimant’s mailbox. Claimant is shown collecting the mail, walking towards his residence,
then walking back to the car and entering the driver’s seat.
Judge Romero hanged him on one (yes only one) day out of eleven when he actually drove his truck
for 15 minutes outside his home and for the first time talked to someone other than his wife and
stepson.
EL testified that he did not recall filling out a social/psychological profile at a Wellness Center in
Denton where he was treated for respiratory failure. It never occurred to the judge that medical
records or test results are not inviolate (brazen fraud occurred in an earlier case he denied), or
question why a psychological profile would be required for a respiratory problem.
It’s also disingenuous to harp on the fact that EL made no claims of being stressed or anxious etc. in
his exit interview from Iraq. PTSD has a delayed onset, is progressive and KBR routinely fires workers
who complain about symptoms and refuses to rehire those who are diagnosed with PTSD.
MOST BIZARRE: Judge Romero: “Claimant’s wife’s corroborating statements (of EL’s PTSD
symptoms), which, due to the role of financial remuneration, are also of little value.” In other words,
the judge presumes from the outset that any claimant and their families are inevitably untruthful
witnesses.
Since EL was exposed to HE blast waves and sustained a concussion, why is there no mention in the
record of a MRI to rule out traumatic brain injury, the other “signature wound” of the Iraq war?
Marlo Hone said
Guess what… all video’s are taken off the internet. HMMM think they are scared now. Think we are finaly catching them at all their games.
I bet they were not thinking that a handfull of people could finaly break the illegal doing of these companies.
Maybe with all this new knowledge we can finaly get the attention and it the wrong doers their just dues. Keep up the great work everyone.
defensebaseactcomp said
We’re up against big money, big entities.
The DoL has seen it, let’s see what they do about it.
Mark probably could have sold that video but had
the moral integrity to share it with us for free, for
everyone fighting these entities, and at risk to himself.
I wonder how Goslings fellow Marines feel about him
selling out?
Barry said
Please look at the following quotes from Mark from Austrailia and I think many will agree that the Tangiers agent involved should immediately be investigated for felony reckless endangerment and possibly attempted murder because he and the insurance companies definitely know the risks of PTSD.
Here are two of the paragraphs that Mark wrote about the suicide bombing attack that occurred in May 2005 :
“22 people killed including women and children as well as the loss of two fellow work mates. Not long after the incident I was returned to my family in Australia. I was then diagnosed with PTSD and my treatment continues today. So does my claim with AIG.”
“Late last year AIG instructed Tangiers to send their vice president from their Malta Office to undertake surveillance upon myself and my family members. Their Agent (Vice President) rang me in the early hours of the morning (5am) to confirm I was home (He only asked for my name and then hung up the phone) and then commenced to video the front of my house and eventually my wife, my children and I over the next few days as we moved about the outside of our house.
The Agent attempted to follow me however nearly caused an accident when driving on the wrong side of the road towards oncoming traffic.”
Mark also mentioned that his mate had a seizure because of the incidents !!
(These quotes are from the topic titled Tangiers International DBA “medical” providers)
If the U.S. Government does not take immediate action to investigate and stop this then that will show the complete lack of conscience that Tangiers and AIG have exhibited in this case !!
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